Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Weben Banu Subject: AEL Parsing a sentence To: AEgyptian-L@rostau.org.uk Hello everyone! I was wondering if you wonderful folks could give me a quick cross-checking on this sentence I've been sorting out? Some of you may recognize it, I've been wrestling with this one for quite some time. prt r xrw mj prrt m r n nTr prt= 3ae-inf verb, "go up, emerge, issue,"subjunctive expressing a wish or desire r= preposition, "with respect to, toward" xrw= "voice, sound, noise" mj= preposition, "like" prrt= 3ae-ing verb, "go up, emerge, issue." imperfective expressing repetitive action m= preposition "in, of, from" r= noun, singular, "mouth" n= genetival adjective, masculine singular,"of" nTr= noun, singular, "god" Furthermore, do you suspect that if the "nTr" in question were dual, then would the mouths need to be dual as well? Or would plural suffice? I know the genetival adjective would then need to be masculine plural,and I suspect plural would suffice for the mouths as well, because it seems like the dual is used to emphasize a special relationship between the two whatevers which are being named. It's only used in religious texts, and it seems to be a little more profound than simply "there are two of them." More like, "there are Two of them." So it would seem that perhaps in this case the dual would be used to emphasize the duality of the gods involved and not necessarily their mouths? Or am I incorrect in this? Many thanks, Katherine ============================================================================== Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:08:03 -0500 Subject: Re: AEL Parsing a sentence From: John Corridan To: Ancient Egyptian Language List Hi Katherine: I'm not sure if I understand your question completely, but here goes: It looks like you parsed the words correctly. "r n nTr" could be "rn nTr" ("name of the god"), but I'm sure you've ruled this out. Regarding the "r" and "n" as duals or plurals, I wouldn't expect to see the plural in the event that "nTr" was a dual. I would expect either "r n nTrwj", or in an older/formal/anachronistic text "rwj nwj nTrwj". I also think that "r" is more likely to be written as a dual, than "n". In other words, you wouldn't typically see "r nwj nTrwj", although you might (I'm just guessing here), see "rwj n nTrwj". John Corridan On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Weben Banu wrote: ==============================================================================