Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:58:45 -0700 From: .JJ. To: "Ancient Egyptian Language List" Subject: AEL Meaning of word Pdw-š Pyramid Text Utterance 300/line_445c Cc: akh@amduat.com All: I am in need of the English translational equivalent for the word: * Pdw-š * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE FERRYMAN AND THE DECEASED KING'S ASCENSION, UTTERANCES 300-311. Utterance 300. 45a. To say: O Hrti of Ns?.t, ferryman of the 'IKh.t-boat, made by Khnum, 445b. bring this (boat) to N. N. is Seker of R-St3.w. *445c. N. is on the way to the place of Seker, chief of Pdw-š.* (as per Samuel Mercer's Pyramid Texts translation) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks in advance! Jon D Jefferson Phoenix AZ, USA ============================================================================== Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:09:00 -0600 From: Robert Myers To: Ancient Egyptian Language List Subject: Re: AEL Meaning of word Pdw-š Pyramid Text Utterance 300/line_445c pD with a bow determinative usually means, "foreigner". This utterance appears only in Unis, as far as I can tell. Allen translates: "Unis is off to where Sokar, lord of Spread Lake, is." Sethe numbers this line 557c Here is a JSesh MdC: i-w-<-w:n-i-s->-i-r-b-w-Xr:r-z:k:r-W18:t-p-D&T9-w-S:1-N25 ============================================================================== From: "Paul Wheeler" To: "'Ancient Egyptian Language List'" Subject: Re: AEL Meaning of word Pdw-š Pyramid Text Utterance 300/line_445c Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:23:15 +0100 Found in Hannig 1341 : pDw-S : [toponyme], Pedju-schi (See of Abusir) Found on the web : >where is Sokar's tomb?< In the desert at Pedju-she (Abusir) (PT 445) http://egyptologist.org/discus/messages/11/5574.html?1038717845 Paul WHEELER paul@cliohist.net ============================================================================== From: "Mike Mac Donagh" To: "Ancient Egyptian Language List" Subject: Re: AEL Meaning of word Pdw-š Pyramid Text Utterance 300/line_445c Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:23:49 -0000 Christophe Thiers has an entry In the Bulletin de l'Institut français d'archéologie orientale Vol.97 (1997), on pDw-S. His contribution seems to identify the location of pDw-S in the Ptolemaic Period. Unfortunately, that won't help with the exact meaning. Faulkner's dictionary has a range of meanings for pD- many of which could be applied to the context - possibly to include 'distant' and 'smooth'. ============================================================================== Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:00:53 +0100 From: Serge Rosmorduc To: Ancient Egyptian Language List Subject: AEL Jsesh version 2.4.16 Hello all, I have just uploaded version 2.4.16 of my free hieroglyphic editor, JSesh. See http://jsesh.qenherkhopeshef.org/download to get it. What's new ? This release mainly adds new signs to JSesh * complete "C", "G", and "H" families: all the gods and birds you wanted, and more. * a few signs have been fixed when they contained errors. * the data on the "C" family has been completely typed, so that you can see what the palette can do. Find a god sign using one of his attributes ! * An experimental window executable installer is provided, for people with windows Vista (it also works on XP) * A bug fix with Mac OS X Leopard, which made JSesh very slow on this system, has been made. Please tell me if it works, as I run Tiger. Best regards, S. Rosmorduc ==============================================================================