Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 9:41:31 -0800
From:  <jcorridan@charter.net>
To: AEgyptian-L@rostau.org.uk
Subject: AEL Non royal individuals with two names

Hi everyone:

I'm trying my hand at translating a coffin in the NY Met, and the female for 
whom the coffin was made seems to be called by two different names.  In one 
instance, she is "an.sn", born of "mHt", and elsewhere, she is (something like) 
"i.r.iAt", born of "mHt".  

Have I got this right?  Are some individuals given two different names?  Or is it 
more likely that one of the two "names" above is either an allusion to some 
individual other than the decedent?  Or perhaps not a name at all?

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to reply.

John Corridan 
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:57:04 -0800
From:  <jcorridan@charter.net>
To: AEgyptian-L@rostau.org.uk
Subject: AEL verb form of "di.f"

Hi again:

Would anyone be kind enough to walk me through a basic stumbling block I keep 
facing in my translations?

In attempting to translate various Egyptian artifacts, I keep coming across the 
phrase "Dd-mdw in wsir di.f".  [I'm just using "wsir" here as an example, it 
could be "Dd-mdw in inpw", etc.]

Can someone clarify the precise meaning of "di.f" for me?  Is it to be understood 
as "Words to be recited by Osiris: 'May he (Osiris) give such-and-such' "?

Or, is the proper translation "Words to be recited by Osiris, THAT he (Osiris) may give 
such-and-such"?

In either case, just what ARE the words which are to be recited?  They do not seem 
to be listed separately.

Thanks to everyone taking the time to read this post.

John Corridan
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From: "Nicole B. Hansen" <nbhansen@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: AEL Non royal individuals with two names
To: Ancient Egyptian Language List <AEgyptian-L@rostau.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:14:23 -0600 (CST)

It was common for people to have more than one name in ancient
Egypt. Two good articles on this topic are:

Abdel Meguid, Bulbul [i.e. Umm Sety]. 1969. "A Question of
Names." Newsletter of the American Research Center in Egypt
71: 10–15.

Hobson, Deborah. 1989. "Naming Practices in Roman Egypt."
Bulletin of the American Society of Papyrologists 26: 157–174.

Nicole B. Hansen, Ph.D.
Study hieroglyphs online at http://www.glyphdoctors.com
Chicago, USA


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