From: UrHekau@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:07:19 EDT Subject: Re: AEL Destruction of Mankind 7:1-4 To: AEgyptian-L@rostau.demon.co.uk In a message dated 9/17/00 4:58:19 PM Central Daylight Time, ayma@tip.nl writes: > [7:1] sxs=sn mi Sw.t n X.t > [7:2] in.in=tw nn wpw.t.y.w ipn Hr-awy > [7:3] Dd.in Hm n nTr pn SA sn r > [7:4] Abw in.w didi(.t.y?) r wr > > "....(so) that they may run like the shadow of a body." > Then these messengers were brought immediately. Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but I find the first line quite poetic. Yes, these messengers are supposed to be swift and speedy, but how fast can a "Swy.t" run? A shadow of a person can only go as fast as the runner. I think this is supposed to mean "so that they may run like a phantom". Can you envision the imagery of phantoms flitting unseen through the night in search of this coloring material? Marianne Luban ============================================================================== From: UrHekau@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:58:02 EDT Subject: Re: AEL Destruction of Mankind 7:1-4 To: AEgyptian-L@rostau.demon.co.uk In a message dated 9/17/00 4:58:19 PM Central Daylight Time, ayma@tip.nl writes: > [7:4] Abw in.w didi(.t.y?) r wr The pEbers also has "didi" as coming from Elephantine and it is included in the ancient Egyptian pharmacopoeia. It's dets. seem to me to indicate that it is a powder derived from hematite, whose "earth" form is known as red ochre. Supposedly, this "didi" was efficacious for abdominal problems and could be swallowed when mixed with other ingredients. It was also used for a rouge when put on the cheeks and lips. While looking through the pEbers I also got a hint as to why there are not more extant papyri from ancient Egypt. Boiled "old books" had their medicinal uses, also. Marianne Luban ============================================================================== Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:05:48 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Robyn Adams Gillam To: Ancient Egyptian Language List Subject: Re: AEL Destruction of Mankind 6:4-6:7 The phrase "beer mash of the night" recalls other operations performs for festivals. In the Mystery of Osiris text at Dendera special pieces of cloth are woven over a 24 hour period. The night hours were both a period of danger and deep mythic significance. Robyn Gillam Programme in Classical Studies York University, Toronto CANADA ============================================================================== Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:31:23 -0600 To: Ancient Egyptian Language List From: Gisele Horvat Subject: AEL Re: AEL- ddi Aayko wrote: >didi or ddi is the noun (*)haematite in the HWB, but here written >with a .t and later on our page thrice with t.y(.w). as if a nisbe. >Det. is N33 indicating a mineral or metal - But, determinative N33 is found in a variety of words - not only those that refer to metals or minerals. Look, for example, at the word /qd/ (Faulkner's p.282, Budge's p. 779B). With this determinative the word is said to mean, "form, nature, reputation etc." Gisele ============================================================================== Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:06:01 +0200 From: Richard Watson Subject: AEL Word for 'swift and 'wings' To: Ancient Egyptian Language List Hi there everyone! Remember me?! I need a picture of a Middle Egyptian hieroglyph for 'swift' and 'wings'. You can just give me a link to a webpage which has those pictures, as I know one can't send attachment's to the list! You probably know what I'm trying to write :-) !!! That's all for now! Thanks, Richard Watson (ricwatson@mweb.co.za) ============================================================================== From: Serge Rosmorduc Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:45:53 +0200 (CEST) To: Ancient Egyptian Language List Subject: AEL Destruction of Mankind 7:1-4 A.K. Eyma writes: > > Did not find Abw written this way [with A28 instead of U23] > anywhere, but Elephantine is the place were the red fertile mud > of the inundation enters Egypt. After looking at photographies from Sethy's tomb, it appears that it's not A28. In fact, it's a simple variant of R15 (iAb/Ab), with the pole replaced by a "b"-leg sign. Now, R15 instead of U23 is rather usual. Regards, -- Serge Rosmorduc -- http://webperso.iut.univ-paris8.fr/~rosmord/AEgypt.html ==============================================================================